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Fixed typo in my latest attempt at Russian translation
by Andrew Randrianasulu 06 Sep '20

06 Sep '20

"Оистить" -> "Очистить". compile msgfmt ru-4.po -o cin.mo and put it for tests in /usr/share/locale/ru/LC_MESSAGES

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August Monthly Builds now available on cinelerra-gg.org
by Phyllis Smith 04 Sep '20

04 Sep '20

There are new binaries for the latest version of cinelerra gg at: https://cinelerra-gg.org/download/ as well as the releasenotes.pdf. The release notes contain the known bug and workaround. The manual is currently undergoing major reorganization by Andrea so in order to avoid interference is not being modified until this effort is complete. 2 of the lesser used distros information: Gentoo did not build but Tumbleweed did. Text version of release notes is below. *Cinelerra-GG (Version Infinity) Release Notes for 08/01/2020-08/31/2020 for builds* *Special thanks to Andrew, Andrea, Houku, IgorBeg, and RafaMar for testing* this month, especially of the speed fixes and Auto Bumps as Phyllis was unable to do so. *Release contains a known bug with a workaround.* Clear Keyframes in some cases does not delete the right keyframes. The verified workaround is to turn on/off "keyframes follow edits” when this error could surface. It will be fixed as soon as possible and will be correct in next month’s release. 1. *Bump float Autos* feature has been added which provides a good solution for adding speed to a selection, like an edit, as well as some nice useful applications to the camera, projector, etc. Temporary document/explanation is at: https://cinelerra-gg.org/download/testing/bump_autos.pdf . A new “Create Keyframes”option for a selection area under the Keyframes pulldown was added. 2. Upgraded operating system distros on the build computers. 3. *Changed behavior:* Shortcut for Undo is “z” as originally + *Ctrl-z* so that new users are less confused. Because Ctrl-z was already in use with the middle mouse button on a track for “Cut Pack”, that was changed to Ctrl-Alt-z (video - Top 8 open source video editor – by Nice Micro). Shortcut for Save is “s” as originally + *Ctrl-s* so that new users are less confused. Because Ctrl-s was already in use under the Settings pulldown for Save settings now, that was changed to Ctrl- Shift-S (forum - Ideas for UI Modifications (Improvements?) - note by Tupper). 4. *Usability Improvements:* *Language preference* is now available in the pulldown Settings→Preferences, Appearance tab on the left hand side to make it easy to have CinGG always start in the user’s preferred language (BT #113 by MatN and Gerd via mailing list). Note that the only current choices are the ones that I am quite sure are actually being used. You can still set the environment variable LANGUAGE for other translations like Slovenia, Chinese, Portuguese, etc and if requested, we will add another possible translation in but they have not been updated in a long time and are only done via an automatic translator with no personal corrections done. Ydiff was upgraded to work for rgb/yuv and 16 bit depth. This was done in order to better analyze the problem in the forum of “Loss of detail” by dejay. *Prores format* for rendering was modified to use a default of “profile=3” for High Quality instead of the original “profile=2”. I will take longer to render and produce a larger file but the quality difference is certainly better with a ydiff difference of only 1.7 versus 7.7. This is again in reference to the forum “Loss of detail” by dejay. *Default settings for new configuration* setup in $HOME/.bcast5 have been changed. This does not affect any currently existing setups. Changes include default Load Mode, Click to Activate/Deactivate Focus, and Clear Toggles (Sam suggestion to align with user expectations) now is 0) and Size (was 24 and now 48). More video is of bigger width and height and it was difficult to even see the smaller characters the first time (suggestion from Andrea). Time-reference metadata value that showed up in Audio examples has been added as necessary for “Align Timecodes” (Katacuts supplied examples). Updated es.po Spanish (thanks to RafaMar as he has faithfully been providing for months now). A new feature is *drag speed highlight*s; it is quite useful because it shows you the change that the speed up/down will make to the timeline while moving and then drops it there when you let up on the mouse. *Multiple edit selection* capability has been added. 5. *Bugs/Issues Fixed:* Auto-Rotate for ffmpeg video was not working with hardware vaapi/vdpau devices. Had to rework ffmpeg a/v filter setup and hw decode with vid filters (notified by Ig0r in the forum). Speed Auto edit cuts resulted in incorrect results. This has been fixed as far as we have been able to test. A note about usage is: “ When working with edits and the speed auto, if you make a "cut" in a section, the speed curve values should not change over the remaining playable edits. It is possible to easily add "disjoint" curve points at the boundaries of the edit to preserve the curve shape (houku BT #477). Paste automation tweaks; undo fixes and tweaks for undo commit logic. Normalize speed follows (for example plugins/labels) enhancement. Update shortcuts to reflect changes and make some corrections. A fix was added to the video code interface with ffmpeg in order to make F_minterpolate functional. Although it will now work single-threaded, it is slow and does not seek so using the command line may be a much better way to go (IgorBeg suggestion). Anyway as a result there are now an additional 7 more usable ffmpeg plugins available (Andrea went through the set to find these). Bug fix for get_auto_at_position equivalence test.

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Webserver maintenance
by Sam 03 Sep '20

03 Sep '20

Hi guys, This weekend there will be some maintenance work on the server and the website to fix the language plugin (German and French) and display problems and also to see if some user requests are feasible. Due to this maintenance work, there may be temporary limitations in the accessibility of the website. Sam

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Crash at fast 'z' (undo) for many-fade-keyframes?
by Andrew Randrianasulu 03 Sep '20

03 Sep '20

I was playing with new bump autos, set some on fade curve, played with type of each keyframe point, and then decided to remove them all by hitting 'z' fast. This resulted in: cin Cinelerra Infinity - built: Aug 31 2020 05:07:06 git://git.cinelerra-gg.org/goodguy/cinelerra.git (c) 2006-2019 Heroine Virtual Ltd. by Adam Williams 2007-2020 mods for Cinelerra-GG by W.P.Morrow aka goodguy Cinelerra is free software, covered by the GNU General Public License, and you are welcome to change it and/or distribute copies of it under certain conditions. There is absolutely no warranty for Cinelerra. RenderFarmClient::main_loop: client started FFMPEG::open_decoder: some stream times estimated: /home/guest/New_hdd/Swimming with orca in New Zealand-JQ3mDXF3bcE.mkv FFMPEG::open_decoder: some stream times estimated: /home/guest/New_hdd/Swimming with orca in New Zealand-JQ3mDXF3bcE.mkv FFMPEG::open_decoder: some stream times estimated: /home/guest/New_hdd/Swimming with orca in New Zealand-JQ3mDXF3bcE.mkv FFMPEG::open_decoder: some stream times estimated: /home/guest/New_hdd/Swimming with orca in New Zealand-JQ3mDXF3bcE.mkv FFMPEG::open_decoder: some stream times estimated: /home/guest/New_hdd/Swimming with orca in New Zealand-JQ3mDXF3bcE.mkv FFMPEG::open_decoder: some stream times estimated: /home/guest/New_hdd/Swimming with orca in New Zealand-JQ3mDXF3bcE.mkv FFMPEG::open_decoder: some stream times estimated: /home/guest/New_hdd/Swimming with orca in New Zealand-JQ3mDXF3bcE.mkv FFMPEG::open_decoder: some stream times estimated: /home/guest/New_hdd/Swimming with orca in New Zealand-JQ3mDXF3bcE.mkv FFMPEG::open_decoder: some stream times estimated: /home/guest/New_hdd/Swimming with orca in New Zealand-JQ3mDXF3bcE.mkv FFMPEG::open_decoder: some stream times estimated: /home/guest/New_hdd/Swimming with orca in New Zealand-JQ3mDXF3bcE.mkv FFMPEG::open_decoder: some stream times estimated: /home/guest/New_hdd/Swimming with orca in New Zealand-JQ3mDXF3bcE.mkv FFMPEG::open_decoder: some stream times estimated: /home/guest/New_hdd/Swimming with orca in New Zealand-JQ3mDXF3bcE.mkv FFMPEG::open_decoder: some stream times estimated: /home/guest/New_hdd/Swimming with orca in New Zealand-JQ3mDXF3bcE.mkv FFMPEG::open_decoder: some stream times estimated: /home/guest/New_hdd/Swimming with orca in New Zealand-JQ3mDXF3bcE.mkv FFMPEG::open_decoder: some stream times estimated: /home/guest/New_hdd/Swimming with orca in New Zealand-JQ3mDXF3bcE.mkv FFMPEG::open_decoder: some stream times estimated: /home/guest/New_hdd/Swimming with orca in New Zealand-JQ3mDXF3bcE.mkv FFMPEG::open_decoder: some stream times estimated: /home/guest/New_hdd/Swimming with orca in New Zealand-JQ3mDXF3bcE.mkv FFMPEG::open_decoder: some stream times estimated: /home/guest/New_hdd/Swimming with orca in New Zealand-JQ3mDXF3bcE.mkv FFMPEG::open_decoder: some stream times estimated: /home/guest/New_hdd/Swimming with orca in New Zealand-JQ3mDXF3bcE.mkv Mutex::lock: Resource temporarily unavailable Mutex::unlock: Invalid argument ** segv at 0xf6a2d558 in pid 3994, tid 4011 writing debug data to /tmp/cinelerra_3994.dmp lock_items: 19 lock_frees: 6 FFMPEG::open_decoder: some stream times estimated: /home/guest/New_hdd/Swimming with orca in New Zealand-JQ3mDXF3bcE.mkv FFMPEG::open_decoder: some stream times estimated: /home/guest/New_hdd/Swimming with orca in New Zealand-JQ3mDXF3bcE.mkv FFMPEG::open_decoder: some stream times estimated: /home/guest/New_hdd/Swimming with orca in New Zealand-JQ3mDXF3bcE.mkv FFMPEG::open_decoder: some stream times estimated: /home/guest/New_hdd/Swimming with orca in New Zealand-JQ3mDXF3bcE.mkv FFMPEG::open_decoder: some stream times estimated: /home/guest/New_hdd/Swimming with orca in New Zealand-JQ3mDXF3bcE.mkv ** dump complete Ошибка сегментирования Dump attached

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Possible hack/idea for automatically workaround clearing wrong keyframes?
by Andrew Randrianasulu 03 Sep '20

03 Sep '20

So, I looked into mainmenu.C and there I can see (searching for ClearKeyframes) int ClearKeyframes::handle_event() { if( mwindow->session->current_operation == NO_OPERATION ) mwindow->clear_automation(); return 1; } and for "keyframes_follow_edits" I see keyframes_follow_edits->set_checked(mwindow->edl->session->autos_follow_edits); so, may be save this state into tmp variable, test this mwindow->edl->session->autos_follow_edits , and if set to 1 - clear temporarily before calling mwindow->clear_automation(); and restore from tmp variable afterwards?

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Re: [Cin] BUG on Clear keyframes (CinGG-release by GIT 30Aug 2020)
by Andrew Randrianasulu 31 Aug '20

31 Aug '20

---------- Пересланное сообщение ---------- Тема: Re: [Cin] BUG on Clear keyframes (CinGG-release by GIT 30Aug 2020) Дата: Понедельник 31 августа 2020 Отправитель: Andrew Randrianasulu <randrianasulu(a)gmail.com> Получатель: cin(a)lists.cinelerra-gg.org В сообщении от Monday 31 August 2020 15:56:28 Igor BEGHETTO via Cin написал(а): > Clear Keyframes (Shift+Del) do not delete the right keyframes. > Maybe it's too late for the monthy release but a bug I found. I don't > know if this bug is also in the last GIT release. I think bug still exist in latest (0678b17975f50a831fb8a1cda6baaa961e3b6de7) code, at least if I try to cover all existing keyframes by highlighting them - they all disappear. But if I only select 2-3 out of 4 - yes, remaining keyframes moved left, into higlighted region. Thing is, because those keyframes represent change ... deleting only SOME of them will create new curve (default value in highlighted region, abruptly starting to climb to remaining keyframes as we move outside of highlighted region). I mean, isn't this operation ought to *create* some keyframes in such case, too? *****update***** No, my thinking above was not useful here, but may be keyframes saved not as absolute pairs (distance from start of timeline, value), but as relative (delta) to previous keyframe values? If so, 'delete keyframes' should recalculate this delta for next left keyframe outside of highlighted region relative to keyframe right before highlight started (if any). And then apply those values to left (next) keyframe. At least when it comes to automatization keyframes like fade, speed, etc. Not sure how plugin automatization should react. > 1. Create three (or more) Fade keyframes > 2. Highlight an area to select one or more Fade keyframe > 3. Hit Shift+Del shortcut or Keyframes-> Clear Keyframes > 4. It delete the wrong keyframes and move others. > (Note: Settings-> keyframes follow edits = checked) > > Take a look the screencast at > https://streamable.com/q58t37 > > Thanks! (Sorry for the late) > > IgorBeg -------------------------------------------------------

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Today's GIT checkin includes fixes + Ctrl-s for save session
by Phyllis Smith 31 Aug '20

31 Aug '20

Hopefully this solves some of the new user complaints -- *Ctrl-s ALSO saves the session as does the original "s" shortc*ut. We can not lose the "s" since too many users already know and use this consistently but since according to the forum, 99% of people use Ctrl-s to save the session. Unfortunately, this means that "Save Settings" under settings has had to change to Ctrl-Shift-S. If you have concerns about this, please let us know -- I am sorry that we find it necessary to ever change anything. Also, we would like to change Ctrl-z to be a undo in addition to the current shortcut "z" -- as this is another major complaint of new users. Same reasoning as above. We have not done this yet as ctrl-z in currently in use in a couple of different ways. If you have objections about this change, now is the time to say so. GIT changes also include: - Igor's last auto bump found error where the effects did not correctly stay put - other auto bump fixes - updated es.po (thanks to RafaMar as he has faithfully been providing for months now) - undo tweaks - *new feature is drag speed highlights; *check this out as I believe it is quite useful because it shows you the change that the speed up/down will make to the timeline while moving and then drops it there when you let up on the mouse - fix to ffmpeg filter parameters for video (to match previous change already done for audio); this allows for usage of f*_minterpolate *(and possibly other ffmpeg plugins that were commented out but I did not have time to test); "yes", it can be cpu intensive like Igor suggested and it does not seek so I *do not know if minterpolate will be useful* anyway but at least it does not crash. In order to get use of this plugin, you will have to "Reload Plugins" which you can do from Preferences. - normalize speed tweaks.

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New ffmpeg plugins
by Andrea paz 31 Aug '20

31 Aug '20

I enclose my plugins.opts after testing some of the ffmpeg plugins that were commented before: 15 now work, although some I have no idea how they work or what use they have. The others still don't work, giving the usual errors. There are some that do not give errors when booting CinGG but then do not appear in the list of plugins. Probably you can make them work, but I don't know if it is worth wasting time. WORKS: allrgb; allyuv; cellauto; codecview (I don't know how to use it!); copy; fps; freezedetect; null; pixdesctest (I don't know how to use it!); pullup (I don't know how to use it!); random; reverse; selective colors; settb; tonemap; vmafmotion (I don't know how to use it!). NO ERROR but NO LOADS: alphaextract; decimate; displace; extractplanes; hdcd; join; mergeplanes; noformat; removelogo; replaygain; xmedian; mix; drawtext; subtitles.

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Bump Autos + other checked into GIT
by Phyllis Smith 29 Aug '20

29 Aug '20

New "Bump Autos" have been checked into GIT. A demo is at: https://streamable.com/4kqlpv The initial goal was to resolve some of the issues reported with Speed with the end result of application to all of the float autos (to include Camera and Projector). Documentation is not yet available due to Phyllis not being available much to do anything. Hopefully it will get done by the 31st. Test builds for Ubuntu 20, Mint 18 and Arch can be downloaded (*in about 2 hours from now*) at https://cinelerra-gg.org/download/testing/ look for the one with today's date on it. The icon symbols that were checked in are still being worked too. GG

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Improved Scale plugin from Contributor checked in
by Phyllis Smith 14 Aug '20

14 Aug '20

The GIT has an improved Scale plugin added. And Locale was replaced with Language in the Settings->Preferences, Appearance tab. GG is working on improving the Speed Auto. I am having to spend more time in the next couple of weeks on personal stuff.

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