I have updated the plugins chapter, based on IgorV's updates for the manual of Cinelerra-CV. (See: https://github.com/cinelerra-cv-team/cinelerra-cv/commits/master/doc) Check that they fit.
пн, 29 апр. 2024 г. в 11:36, Andrea paz via Cin <cin@lists.cinelerra-gg.org
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I have updated the plugins chapter, based on IgorV's updates for the manual of Cinelerra-CV. (See: https://github.com/cinelerra-cv-team/cinelerra-cv/commits/master/doc) Check that they fit. -- Cin mailing list Cin@lists.cinelerra-gg.org https://lists.cinelerra-gg.org/mailman/listinfo/cin
Do marketers of the Cin-GG Community discourage linking to sources? I want to remind them of something. The CV manual was mostly copied (many years ago) from the HV-manual & the Alex's cv-wiki. The content of the CGG manual was mostly copied from HV/CV-manuals and Features5.1 and paraphrased (in some places)/reordered for pseudo-originality & better understanding/usability (however, you did not solve the problems of the previous manuals). + you described well the new functions made by William Morrow aka GoodGuy (but not all as far as I remember). The content was copied from hv-cv_mans to cgg-man without providing links to hv-cv_sources and contributors. The CGG-manual contains only this: Information contained in this manual is a description of the CINELERRA-GG program usage and was obtained from various sources to include different communication channels, emails, common knowledge, and write-ups as new features were added In CV: This manual originates from "Secrets of Cinelerra", an excellent primer written by Adam WILLIAMS from HEROINE VIRTUAL LTD. In 2003 Alex FERRER created a Wiki based on that manual and added many screenshots and topic descriptions. The CV-manual contains a list of its contributors. So, - I provided a description of how chromakey-hsv works not for the CGG-manual, but for the CV-manual. Therefore you have to indicate the source. - Marketers of your community should finally make an effort on themselves and indicate the main sources of origin of the contents of the CinGG-manual. Good luck. IgorV
Andrea, thank you for locating these improvements. My commentary below is not meant to be too picky, just suggestions that you can ignore. If you agree with my suggestions, no need to resend Plugins.tex because I will just make the changes accordingly. These are the result of my doing "Check that they fit", but I have not reviewed it all yet. 1) "The following effects support OpenGL acceleration:" - I am not sure that it is important to list these as either the person wants to use the plugin or they do not so they probably do not care if it uses OpenGL. I would leave this out unless you think it is really important. And the list is missing several per the search I did which may not be 100% correct to include:
colorspace/colorspace.C:#ifdef HAVE_GL downsample/downsample.C:#ifdef HAVE_GL flash/flash.C:#ifdef HAVE_GL lens/lens.C:#ifdef HAVE_GL mirror/mirror.C:#ifdef HAVE_GL motion51/motion51.C:#ifdef HAVE_GL rumbler/rumbler.C:#ifdef HAVE_GL scaleratio/scaleratio.C:#ifdef HAVE_GL swapchannels/swapchannels.C:#ifdef HAVE_GL zoomblur/zoomblur.C:#ifdef HAVE_GL zoom/zoom.C:#ifdef HAVE_GL
2) The added line "The contents of the Mask track can be processed further (blur, color correction, further masking) after the plugin." would go better on the end after "animated Mask in one track and then to transfer the Alpha channel to another target track" because that is where Mask is being talked about. 3) Since ChromaKey implementation has varied so much and CinGG's version has a problem, I am not sure if this is correct in our case: "It uses the same algorithm as the Gimp selection tools. It works best with computer generated graphics." Anyway to test this and verify in a case where it does work? On Mon, Apr 29, 2024 at 5:36 AM Andrea paz via Cin < cin@lists.cinelerra-gg.org> wrote:
I have updated the plugins chapter, based on IgorV's updates for the manual of Cinelerra-CV. (See: https://github.com/cinelerra-cv-team/cinelerra-cv/commits/master/doc) Check that they fit. -- Cin mailing list Cin@lists.cinelerra-gg.org https://lists.cinelerra-gg.org/mailman/listinfo/cin
I agree on all points. Il mar 30 apr 2024, 00:16 Phyllis Smith <phylsmith2017@gmail.com> ha scritto:
Andrea, thank you for locating these improvements. My commentary below is not meant to be too picky, just suggestions that you can ignore. If you agree with my suggestions, no need to resend Plugins.tex because I will just make the changes accordingly. These are the result of my doing "Check that they fit", but I have not reviewed it all yet.
1) "The following effects support OpenGL acceleration:" - I am not sure that it is important to list these as either the person wants to use the plugin or they do not so they probably do not care if it uses OpenGL. I would leave this out unless you think it is really important. And the list is missing several per the search I did which may not be 100% correct to include:
colorspace/colorspace.C:#ifdef HAVE_GL downsample/downsample.C:#ifdef HAVE_GL flash/flash.C:#ifdef HAVE_GL lens/lens.C:#ifdef HAVE_GL mirror/mirror.C:#ifdef HAVE_GL motion51/motion51.C:#ifdef HAVE_GL rumbler/rumbler.C:#ifdef HAVE_GL scaleratio/scaleratio.C:#ifdef HAVE_GL swapchannels/swapchannels.C:#ifdef HAVE_GL zoomblur/zoomblur.C:#ifdef HAVE_GL zoom/zoom.C:#ifdef HAVE_GL
2) The added line "The contents of the Mask track can be processed further (blur, color correction, further masking) after the plugin." would go better on the end after "animated Mask in one track and then to transfer the Alpha channel to another target track" because that is where Mask is being talked about.
3) Since ChromaKey implementation has varied so much and CinGG's version has a problem, I am not sure if this is correct in our case: "It uses the same algorithm as the Gimp selection tools. It works best with computer generated graphics." Anyway to test this and verify in a case where it does work?
On Mon, Apr 29, 2024 at 5:36 AM Andrea paz via Cin < cin@lists.cinelerra-gg.org> wrote:
I have updated the plugins chapter, based on IgorV's updates for the manual of Cinelerra-CV. (See: https://github.com/cinelerra-cv-team/cinelerra-cv/commits/master/doc) Check that they fit. -- Cin mailing list Cin@lists.cinelerra-gg.org https://lists.cinelerra-gg.org/mailman/listinfo/cin
Since this thread's subject is "small changes in Manual", I have made some small changes also to Introduction.tex and AUTHORS.tex which you can see in the Manual's GIT for clarification purposes. Although I wish the Manual could be perfect and include everything possible, that is not practical or achievable. But working to improve it within reason is certainly a good goal.
@igor_ubuntu (Igor Vladimirsky) See if the changes made to the manual sound good to you. https://git.cinelerra-gg.org/git/?p=goodguy/cin-manual-latex.git;a=commitdif... If that doesn't work for you, try writing something yourself (plain text is fine) and then put it here in the thread so it can be integrated into the manual. If, on the other hand, what you are asking for is that every sentence I take from your manual report the author, then I apologize for what I have done so far. I thought that having asked your permission and then mentioning you on the mailing list (complete with a link) was enough. From now on, I will not resume sentences written by others to avoid these problems.
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