Even more on HDR in video
https://lightillusion.com/what_is_hdr.html This page points out something interesting: you can have only *some* components of "HDR" in any particular display, so for example display can be Wide Gamut bt2020 BUT SDR! And/or smaller than 4k ;) === Additionally, the individual aspects of the HDR specifications can, and often are, used in isolation. For example, there is nothing to stop a standard gamut display (Rec709), with standard HD or even SD resolution, working with an HDR EOTF with high contrast range. ====== It also points out that viewing environment even more important for both HDR schemas - PQ and HLG. Interestingly it includes table where specific (integer!) signal levels correspond to specific luminance in nits. I still can't fully wrap my mind around what exactly "nit" represent, but apparently in HDR you really grade relative to specific max/min luminance of your mastering display AND suitable HDR display/TV must do some tone mapping magic if your defined luminance (?) goes above level that monitor/tv can show. There was equation on page about tonemapping https://64.github.io/tonemapping/ === Converting a linear RGB triple to a luminance value is easy: L=0.2126R+0.7152G+0.0722B ==== but I am not sure if it works for *any* useful RGB values? Also, issue with viewing distance wil play differently for those VR setups?
On Tue, 22 Apr 2025, Andrew Randrianasulu via Cin wrote:
you can have only *some* components of "HDR" in any particular display, so for example display can be Wide Gamut bt2020 BUT SDR! And/or smaller than 4k ;)
Here https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/High-dynamic-range_television is written: As of 2020, no display is capable of rendering the full range of brightness and color of HDR formats. A display is called an HDR display if it can accept HDR content and map it to its display characteristics, so the HDR logo only provides information about content compatibility and not display capability. _______________________________________________________________________________ Georgy Salnikov NMR Group Novosibirsk Institute of Organic Chemistry Lavrentjeva, 9, 630090 Novosibirsk, Russia Phone +7-383-3307864 Email sge@nmr.nioch.nsc.ru _______________________________________________________________________________
вт, 22 апр. 2025 г., 17:22 Georgy Salnikov <sge@nmr.nioch.nsc.ru>:
On Tue, 22 Apr 2025, Andrew Randrianasulu via Cin wrote:
you can have only *some* components of "HDR" in any particular display, so for example display can be Wide Gamut bt2020 BUT SDR! And/or smaller than 4k ;)
Here https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/High-dynamic-range_television is written:
As of 2020, no display is capable of rendering the full range of brightness and color of HDR formats. A display is called an HDR display if it can accept HDR content and map it to its display characteristics, so the HDR logo only provides information about content compatibility and not display capability.
Burned by previous expirience experts this time tried to leave some room for future growth ;) _______________________________________________________________________________
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Even limiting to color gamut alone (so without considering OETF HDR, white point, etc.), no current display covers 100% of BT.2020. Mine is a wide gamut monitor and covers 98% DCI-P3, but compared to BT.2020 it does not reach 80%.
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