On Saturday, December 18, 2021, Terje J. Hanssen <terjejhanssen@gmail.com> wrote:


Den 17.12.2021 22:49, skrev Andrew Randrianasulu:


On Saturday, December 18, 2021, Terje J. Hanssen via Cin <cin@lists.cinelerra-gg.org <mailto:cin@lists.cinelerra-gg.org>> wrote:



    Den 17.12.2021 15:00, skrev Terje J. Hanssen:


        Den 17.12.2021 04:58, skrev Andrew Randrianasulu:



            On Friday, December 17, 2021, Terje J. Hanssen
            <terjejhanssen@gmail.com <mailto:terjejhanssen@gmail.com>
            <mailto:terjejhanssen@gmail.com
            <mailto:terjejhanssen@gmail.com>>> wrote:

        [......]

                ===============

                I-frame-only 50 Megabit MPEG-2 or comparable DV50 in
            4:2:2 as
                high-end, "visually lossless" intermediate format for
            archival and
                suited for editing?

                -----------------

                Regarding DV50, FFMpeg has a friendly "target dv50"
            support
                (similar as "target DVD"). So to get a first look on a
            DV50 test
                file, I simply transcoded 422/10bit Video and PCM
            audio from a MOV
                file (ProRes 422HQ) to a raw DV50 (422/8bit) file:

                    ffmpeg -i SD-MOV.mov -target pal-dv50 SD-DV50.dv

                [......]


                205M SD-DV50.dv (ffmpeg re-encoded/remuxed) AV-info:

                avprobe SD-DV50.dv
                avprobe version 12.3, Copyright (c) 2007-2018 the
            Libav developers
                  built on Mar 26 2018 12:39 with gcc 11 (SUSE Linux)
                [dv @ 0x55cdddb96440] Estimating duration from
            bitrate, this may
                be inaccurate
                Input #0, dv, from 'SD-DV50.dv':
                  Metadata:
                    timecode        : 00:00:00:00
                  Duration: 00:00:29.80, start: 0.000000, bitrate:
            57600 kb/s
                  Stream #0:0: Video: dvvideo, yuv422p, 720x576 [SAR
            16:15 DAR
                4:3], 25000 kb/s, 25 fps, 25 tbr, 25 tbn, 25 tbc
                  Stream #0:1: Audio: pcm_s16le, 48000 Hz, stereo,
            s16, 1536 kb/s
                  Stream #0:2: Audio: pcm_s16le, 48000 Hz, stereo,
            s16, 1536 kb/s
                # avprobe output

                ===================

                As seen above, it looks like ffmpeg produced wrong
            meta data for
                the DV50 video bitrate (25 Mb/s=DV25), while the total
            bitrate
                57.6 Mb/s is correct. (Also similar was seen with
            ffprobe and
                Mediainfo).

                My VLC player or Gnome movieplayer did not playback
            the DV50 file,
                while ffplay did (as usual without audio?).

                Cin-GG miss a DV50 preset among format setting.
            However DV50 else
                loades preliminary OK in Cin-GG (via ffmpeg).


            I'll look at dv50 output preset..

        Fine

    ===============

    I tried also to transcode and remux 422 Video and PCM Audio to a
    50 Mbps MPEG-2 I-frame only program stream.

    1) MPG From MOV (ProRes 422HQ)
    ------------------------------

    ffmpeg -i SD-MOV.mov -c:v mpeg2video -bf 2 -b:v 50M -maxrate 50M
    -minrate 50M -c:a pcm_s16be -f vob SD-MP2I-50.mpg
    [....]
    Stream mapping:
      Stream #0:0 -> #0:0 (prores (native) -> mpeg2video (native))
      Stream #0:1 -> #0:1 (pcm_s24le (native) -> pcm_s16be (native))
    Press [q] to stop, [?] for help
    [mpeg2video @ 0x560ffd164ec0] Automatically choosing VBV buffer
    size of 746 kbyte
    [vob @ 0x560ffd14d180] At most 8 channels allowed for LPCM streams.
    Could not write header for output file #0 (incorrect codec
    parameters ?): Invalid argument
    Error initializing output stream 0:1 --

    ***This failed because PreRes Audio uses 16 channels:***


yeah... interesting limitation.. and interesting number of channels..


    ffprobe SD-MOV.mov 2>&1 >/dev/null | grep Stream.*Audio
      Stream #0:1(eng): Audio: pcm_s24le (lpcm / 0x6D63706C), 48000
    Hz, 16 channels, s32 (24 bit), 18432 kb/s (default)


    2) MPG from DV50
    ----------------
    ffmpeg -i SD-DV50.dv -c:v mpeg2video -bf 2 -b:v 50M -maxrate 50M
    -minrate 50M -c:a pcm_s16be -f vob SD-MP2I-50.mpg

    du -sh *
    205M    SD-DV50.dv
    284M    SD-MOV.mov
    186M    SD-MP2I-50.mpg

    avprobe SD-MP2I-50.mpg
    Input #0, mpeg, from 'SD-MP2I-50.mpg':
      Duration: 00:00:29.77, start: 0.540000, bitrate: 52167 kb/s
        Stream #0:0[0x1e0]: Video: mpeg2video (4:2:2), yuv422p(tv,
    progressive), 720x576 [SAR 16:15 DAR 4:3], 50000 kb/s, 25 fps, 25
    tbr, 90k tbn, 50 tbc
        Stream #0:1[0xa0]: Audio: pcm_dvd, 48000 Hz, 2 channels, s16,
    1536 kb/s

    ***** The SD-MP2I-50.mpg file size is here 90% of DV50 ********

    The SD-MP2I-50.mpg playback ok with VLC, Gnome movieplayer,
    ffplay, and loads and playback in Cin-GG
    The audio volume seems low (weak), but can probably be adjusted
    higher with ffmpeg


well, but I missed keyframe parameter? bitrate is big but I think without special param ffmpeg still will not make all-I mpeg2 stream..?



The first Video part of my ffmpeg script was based on this standard FFmpeg Howto for
"MPEG-2 I-frame only Highest Quality Encoding", which didn't include a keyframe parameter !?
https://brunosan.eu/images/ffmpeg_howto.html#Encoding_MPEG-2_I-frame_only_in_Highest_Quality

ffmpeg -i <input_file> -vcodec mpeg2video -pix_fmt yuv422p -qscale 1 -qmin 1 -intra -an output.m2v

 
you missed 

-intra? 

ffmpeg changes cmd line and API quickly.. (

try "-g 1" and check keyframes with some linevlike those? 

https://snippets.bentasker.co.uk/page-1707191206-Get-Video-Keyframe-Interval-(ffprobe)-BASH.html





I dropped -pix_fmt yuv422p when I saw it was detected and automatic from the input file.


So I added the second PCM Audio part (similar I did for SD-DV) according to 1. Answer at
https://stackoverflow.com/questions/48265448/mpeg-2-program-stream-w-pcm-audio

FFmpeg only supports muxing 16 bit PCM in a MPEG2 PS. Use

ffmpeg -i "input.mov" \
  -c:v mpeg2video -pix_fmt yuv422p -bf 2 -b:v 50M -maxrate 50M -minrate 50M \
  -s 1920x1080 -aspect 16:9 \
  -c:a pcm_s16be -f vob "output.mpg"

The -f vob is needed to force a MPEG-2 PS, else ffmpeg will select MPEG-1 Systems muxer.