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French translation is complete
by Sam 05 May '19

05 May '19

Hi all, I wanted to let everyone on the mailing list know that the French translation of the website is complete. Olivier Humbert has done a great job and for this excellent support we would like to thank him. I would like to take this opportunity to briefly mention that he himself is running a very interesting digital audio-software music studio called LibraZiK. https://librazik.tuxfamily.org. For our French Cinelerra-GG users: J'espère que vous passerez un bon moment. I hope I wrote it right. ;-) Sam --

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Keeping older tarballs - inclusion in Solus' repo
by Jacek Jagosz 01 May '19

01 May '19

>Jacek, > > But core team don't agree to do so, because you don't keep old tarballs. >> It might cause some problems when a rebuild is needed and maintainer wasn't >> able to update the package right when a new version was released, or a >> regression occurred. Could you please keep one previous tarball? > > >Thank you for considering to add Cinelerra-GG to the Solus repo. Your >consideration is appreciated. > >We have always kept the previous month's tarballs and packages in the "old >directory" for just one month. For example, the current month which in >this case for March (until later today!!) is always in: > >https://www.cinelerra-gg.org/download/*tars*/ >https://www.cinelerra-gg.org/download/pkgs/ > >The previous month's which in this case is February's build is always at: > >https://www.cinelerra-gg.org/download/*old_tars*/ >https://www.cinelerra-gg.org/download/old_pkgs/ > >Perhaps the confusion is the date on these files - which differs because we >are in the United States but the server is in the European Union. We >always build the new versions on the exact last day of each month unless we >have a problem or expect a problem. > >*Your core team is absolutely following best practices by insisting to keep >old tarballs*. If necessary we could probably keep an additional month but >we "grew up" in the days when disk space was at a premium and old habits >are hard to break. Let us know. GG/Phyllis Thank you so much for your reply, The problem I have is simple. When you package for Solus, there is a line: source: -https://cinelerra-gg.org/download/pkgs/src/cin_5.1.20190331-src.tgz And when you release a new version, the file gets transferred to a different directory (/old_pkgs), so the URL no longer works. So when maintainer wasn't able to update it on time, or simply is testing a new version and wants to delay the update for a few days, if a rebuild is needed, it will fail. So one month back is enough, just please, if only it's possible, keep old packages at the same URL. Actually, the only one we need is the /pkgs/src/*-src.tgz, so if you don't feel like you need to do it for all files, please at least do it for this one. Jacek Jagosz

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Keeping older tarballs - inclusion in Solus' repo
by Jacek Jagosz 30 Apr '19

30 Apr '19

Hi, There are a few people who want Cinelerra GG included in Solus' repository. But core team don't agree to do so, because you don't keep old tarballs. It might cause some problems when a rebuild is needed and maintainer wasn't able to update the package right when a new version was released, or a regression occurred. Could you please keep one previous tarball? Then it could be added to Solus repos, and this would enable a lot of new users to use this great software. Jacek Jagosz

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Translating the website into French
by Olivier Humbert 29 Apr '19

29 Apr '19

Hi all, I'd like to translate the website into French. I've already read at https://www.cinelerra-gg.org/translate-website/ . Thanks for giving me further instructions/credential. Cheers, Olivier -- Site web : https://librazik.tuxfamily.org/ Donation : https://liberapay.com/LibraZiK/ Diaspora : https://framasphere.org/people/8c184af0c9450134f6682a0000053625 Mastodon : https://mastodon.xyz/@LibraZiK

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Re: [Cin] Cinelerra & GPU
by Sam 28 Apr '19

28 Apr '19

I think vdpau seems to be the right setting. I also have an Intel processor and an Nvidia graphics card. With vdpau I get the best results. The CPU is hardly used, but the FPS is almost always at maximum. Especially when I switch to X11-OpenGL, I only have 12% CPU load left. Subjectively I have the impression it plays a bit more smoothly. I notice the clearest difference at the fan of the computer. It is hardly noticeable with the hardware acceleration. Without hardware acceleration I get earache because the CPU fan gets extremely loud. Thanks to Andrea for the tip with libva-vdpau post-installation, that's how I got it to work. Here are my tests: X11 CIN_HW_DEV=off ./cin -> CPU 58% CIN_HW_DEV=vdpau ./cin -> CPU 32% CIN_HW_DEV=vaapi ./cin -> CPU 82% X11-OpenGL CIN_HW_DEV=off ./cin -> CPU 48% CIN_HW_DEV=vdpau ./cin -> CPU 12% :-) CIN_HW_DEV=vaapi ./cin -> CPU 80% Sam --

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Build 27 April
by Andrea paz 28 Apr '19

28 Apr '19

About the new build 2019-05-27. - First of all thanks for the Tracer plugin; I have yet to test it, I'll let you know. - I noticed that in Arch's PKGBUILD there is twice the "libva" dependency and "libva-vdpau-driver" is missing (NOTE: there is also "ctags" missing without which the installation fails). - I don't really understand how vdpau/vaapi integration works: don't you have to use the string "CIN_HW_DEV=vdpau/vaapi" anymore when starting from terminal? Or do you still have to put it on if you want to activate the GPU? - For now TOP tells me percentages above 100% and the playback FPS are very low, see video: https://www.dropbox.com/s/z3na1r3vmwcnn6n/test.webm?dl=0

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New native Tracer plugin checked into GIT
by Phyllis Smith 26 Apr '19

26 Apr '19

GG has created a new plugin, called Tracer. It creates an outline (i.e. traces) around an object after a few points are designated. You can then "fill" the alpha channel with its mask, like with a gradient or another object on another track. Although it works well for still images or objects that stay in the same place on a video like a logo, you can also add keyframes. There is a quick demo at: https://streamable.com/o8bse In the video, you can not see that instead of using the "New" button in the controls menu, I use the right mouse button.

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Re: [Cin] Cinelerra & GPU
by Sam 25 Apr '19

25 Apr '19

On 25.04.19 05:47, Phyllis Smith wrote: > Spurred on by the discussion and with additional information supplied > by Sam, mods have been by GG and checked into GIT that take further > advantage of the GPU capabilities of modern graphics boards and more > recent device drivers for those boards. > > This is *very preliminary* at this point. We have tested with Nvidia, > Radeon, and Broadwell graphics board on AMD and Intel computers and > ran at least 30 tests. In these tests, if you run "top" from another > window, we could see the CPU usage with this API go down by 2 to 10 > times lower, > > How to use IF you have the appropriate graphics board and the proper > libraries installed: > > 1) You need to have libva-dev installed on Intel processors; > 2) or you need to have libvdpau-dev installed on AMD processors. > 3) Verify Settings->Preferences, Playback, Video Driver is set to X11 > (NOT X11-OpenGL). > 4) Before starting CinelerraGG, set an environment variable -- because > this is so new and we do not have the capability of testing across all > hardware and all operating system distros, we used an environment > variable in order to make it easily reversible by the user. To run in > the installed directory: > > CIN_HW_DEV=vaapi ./cin (for Intel) > Or CIN_HW_DEV=vdpau ./cin Dreams still come true. Thank you very much for this improvement. I tested it the same way, but I get the error message. Decoder h264 does not support device type vaapi. HW device init failed, using SW decode. file:/home/spc/cin-test/aerial-shot-of-las-vegas-sprawl-daytime_w18wevlbr__D.mp4 err: Success Under OpenSuse I installed the following package. zypper install libva-devel-2.4.0-lp150.114.1.x86_64.rpm In the Cin settings I have set it to X11. However, I have installed the proprietary drivers, do I need to change this? Thanks again for this implementation. Sam

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User Folders/Bins and Delete key
by Igor BEGHETTO 22 Apr '19

22 Apr '19

User Folders/Bins is very useful/powerful but sometimes I delete a thumbnail/item from my userBin (not with "Modify folder" window) and so it is also removed from the Media and from the project. I know that there is the undo function and in CinelerraGG_manual.pdf it is described very well how to delete a file by User Folder in the "Modify folder" window. I think it would be useful, if possible, to be able to remove the media in UserFolder directly in the right side of the Resources window, but without removing it from the Media and from the project (and of course updating the "Modify target" list of the media in "Modify folder"). It would be more natural from a user's point of view. Same thing for the UserClips. I added a screencast at https://streamable.com/iqyhp Thanks. IgorBeg

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Using GPU in Cinelerra-GG
by preobraz＠gmail.com 20 Apr '19

20 Apr '19

I apologize that my question with a new topic fell into the answers to another topic - I do not know how it happened. I will try to duplicate it in the new branch, so as not to be confused. I wrote: I did not find anything in the descriptions of the program about using the GPU. Is there such a possibility? Where can I read about it? Ugin.

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