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Updated AppImage's and Manuals
by Phyllis Smith 01 Aug '21

01 Aug '21

There are now 4 newly created AppImage's for CinGG as follows: https://cinelerra-gg.org/download/images/CinGG-20210731-x86_64.AppImage - for newer distros https://cinelerra-gg.org/download/images/CinGG-20210731-x86_64-older_distro… https://cinelerra-gg.org/download/images/CinGG-20210731-i386.AppImage - for 32 bit https://cinelerra-gg.org/download/images/CinGG-20210731-multibit.AppImage - for extra 10 and 12 bit The "multibit" AppImage was created on Mint 20 using the patch supplied by Andrew_R (which will be checked into GIT as a patch after I get the manual wording done to match). I tested this by rendering using the h265_10bit and h265_12bit formats -- which will not work without the 10 and 12 bit compiled version. But it is important to note that the multibit AppImage will only work on the appropriate Operating Systems which have all of the needed libraries installed. In other words, it worked on the Mint 20 system here as well as my laptop running Fedora 32 BUT did not work on the big desktop computer. And the HTML and pdf versions of the manuals have been updated: https://cinelerra-gg.org/download/CinelerraGG_Manual.pdf https://cinelerra-gg.org/download/CinelerraGG_Manual/ One more note -- the upgrade of ffmpeg from 4.3 to 4.4 is still awaiting a patch for the bluray. A "freelancer" was working on this and said he had a "fix", but then he disappeared so maybe he got sick or has some problem. Who knows these days but I hope a solution is available in August. Notes from the releasenote.pdf file: **************************************** *GIT for Cinelerra-GG has the following changes from 07/01/2021-07/31/2021* Workaround for “attach effect” bug when using In/Out pointers as *discovered by DeJay* and discussed in the forum is to use drag from the Resources window instead. Bug was introduced with the mods checked into GIT on 6/26/2020 in the track.C program. Fix not yet available but would be easy for someone who knows c++ and a little about CinGG. *Andrew R *has contributed all of the following upgrades/fixes with *Andrea doing additional tests*: Upgrade of x264 to 2021-06-15 master version from 20191217-2245-stable version. Upgrade of x265 from 3.4 to 3.5. Upgrade libaom from 3.0.0 to 3.1.1 and modified the build parameters to eliminate unnecessary docs. YUV Color Space has had 601 and 2020 split into 601-NTSC/601-PAL and BT2020-NCL/BT202/CL. Old projects will not be affected because 601-NTSC and BT2020-NCL are the old defaults. Updated or new profile formats of h265-10bit and h265-12bit. Export EDL option for CMX3600 formatted output has been re-instated and proven to work in at least one other application - Final Cut Pro for PPC Mac and also OpenShot with possible caveats. Changes may need to be made if there is a reason to do so for a specific case. *Rafa Mar* updated the Spanish translations.

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offtopic: blender video rendering script
by Andrew Randrianasulu 01 Aug '21

01 Aug '21

found in comments under https://logosbynick.com/ubuntu-video-editing-software/ https://github.com/mikeycal/the-video-editors-render-script-for-blender basically if I understand idea correctly it uses same trick as (new) renderfarm script in Cinelerra posted at https://www.cinelerra-gg.org/bugtracker/view.php?id=575 my own idea is to try more advanced yuv4mpeg pipe if you want high-bit-depth encodings/HDR metadata insertion, but so far this seems to be niche thing... also found Animation nodes addon for blender, https://animation-nodes.com/ but it reqiures relatively new blender for latest version (git or 2.92)

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Re: [Cin] offtopic, may be humor
by Andrew Randrianasulu 01 Aug '21

01 Aug '21

On Friday, July 30, 2021, Phyllis Smith <phylsmith2017(a)gmail.com> wrote: > >> i also found this article, not sure if it already was known? (from 2013) >> https://www.apertus.org/zh-hans/node/160 >> >> has some grep lines for getting range of images out of Cin's project >> xml.. >> > Believe it or not, that "grep" line still seems to work on an ordinary xml > file (that was not even a case mentioned in the article) but that just > shows the usefulness of "sed" ! > found version of article with more illustrations https://szaszak.wordpress.com/linux/digital_cinema_automation/ > > *Andrew*, if you have the inclination and time, could you look at track.C > for why "attach effect" does not work when using In/Out pointers after the > June 26, *2020* GIT mods added. Dragging from the Resources window works > just fine; "attach effect" on a swiped area works just fine too. This was > reported in the forum: https://www.cinelerra-gg.org/ > forum/help-video/attempting-to-attach-title-to-new-track/#post-1839 > ok, i'll look... thanks for digging it out! > I am pretty sure it is just an omission in track.C. Attach Effect works > on GIT commit: 48a6854a1ca58aa291ffc6fe3a48807492dfbef7 > but fails after commit: 9a75aafbc51be29b49351a51e9084bb34d255c0d >

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offtopic, may be humor
by Andrew Randrianasulu 30 Jul '21

30 Jul '21

https://forum.level1techs.com/t/kdenlive-is-superior-to-davinci-resolve/140… from mid-2019, so not very fresh.. but I found idea about ==== No worries. I set up an inotifywatch script that transcodes media I write into an ingest folder on-the-fly, preserving the h264 codec but converting AAC to PCM_S24LE embedded audio. It’s automatic, mostly, and it’s quite neat. I don’t mind this part of things. ==== potentially interesting for other scenarios.... I also found forum post from oct. 2020 about kdenlive and nvenc not working (on dual-gpu system). I followed link there and double-checked visually our h264_nvenc profile... it look sane... https://forum.manjaro.org/t/insane-ly-slow-render-times-with-kdenlive/30367… also found (probably already referenced) thread about (lack of) 10 bit support in mlt/kdenlive, in context of 8k editing (again, year happened since this was written, so may be some progress already was done) https://www.mail-archive.com/kdenlive@kde.org/msg10854.html also, COMPLETELY offtopic but this article tries to explain why (Adobe's) After Effects eats so much memory, with some explanation about caching in memory and on-disk: https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.provideocoalition.com/after-effects-perfor…

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background render tip
by Andrew Randrianasulu 28 Jul '21

28 Jul '21

While working on EDL support I noticed old Adobe Premiere (4.0, 4.2) had interesting mode where you can output .mov from pre-rendered (with effects, transitions, etc) workarea. In CinelerraGG you can get similar effect by setting background render to jpeg, making sure your whole project got its preview (red bar) rendered, then quit cin and execute something like this: $ ffmpeg -f image2 -i ~/tmp/000%3d -c:v copy brender.mov it will copy your background render jpegs into mov without re-encoding them you might want to add '-r' too for specific framerate. I wonder if libavformat-based mov muxer can be re-introduced for such task .. (not feature request, just thinking). And may be 'delete brender files' button (there seems to be some space in preferences/performance GUI window..)

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Re: [Cin] BT 582 (proxy files in folder)
by Andrew Randrianasulu 28 Jul '21

28 Jul '21

I tried to make very crude patch (attached), it seems to work but may be you dislike double directory creation (first pathname + "_" dir, then "/Proxy/" inside it?) feel free to simplify...

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Re: [Cin] termux patch series - another try
by Andrew Randrianasulu 26 Jul '21

26 Jul '21

On Saturday, July 24, 2021, Andrea paz <gamberucci.andrea(a)gmail.com> wrote: > Try the patches 01-first-attempt... and 01-second-attempt... Usual > errors. I enclose the cin5.log > well, at least second attempt compiles a bit more, past guicast/thread.h error! can you try again without 0048-Add-x11-inc-autodetect-for-shuttle-target-using-pkg-.patch ?

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termux patch series - another try
by Andrew Randrianasulu 24 Jul '21

24 Jul '21

there might be some whitespace errors in randrik12/0053-fix-mjpegtools-patch4-and-patch5-termux.patch - try to set git am to --whitespace=nowarn for this patch.. may be autofix (whitespace=fix) breaks them

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Re: [Cin] latest hacks
by Andrew Randrianasulu 24 Jul '21

24 Jul '21

On Wednesday, July 21, 2021, Andrea paz <gamberucci.andrea(a)gmail.com> wrote: > I found some references to 10-bit and 12-bit; however, not being sure > of their meaning I am attaching the entire x265_3.4 directory (.pdf is > a fake!). > > The command "git apply -v" hangs without showing neither output nor > closing. I have to close it with ctrl+c. i was assuming you used 'git apply -v dir/*.patch' from cingg's source dir, where dir/ inside cingg src root, with my patches. just 'git apply -v' probably wait for std. input or something... > > Reading Phyllis' email I wonder if the 3 patches of x265 that I find > in.../cinelerra-5.1/thirdparty have been applied or I have to apply > them like the others of randrik10. > they *should* be applied automatically... by buildsystem. just be sure they live in thirdparty/src and named like same_name_as_src_tar.patch[1,2,3]

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latest hacks
by Andrew Randrianasulu 21 Jul '21

21 Jul '21

this time as tar.gz because adding (or downloading) 50+ files a bit of chore.. based on mainline c0251c4aa075 mostly same old patches for termux + few even older hacks.. Andrea, I broke my cpu_debug patch into 3. randrik9/0047-Debug-add-printing-of-cpucount-from-ff_cpus.patch randrik9/0048-Debug-add-cpu-count-printing-for-mwindow.C.patch randrik9/0049-Hack-raise-cpu-cap-from-8-to-16.patch can you (and Phyllis) see if just 0049 gives you better result? if possble please also test non-ffmpeg based MPEG encoding and decoding...

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